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Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 09-22-2017

Comping soon... Mantics first teaser/logo for their new game.



This will be pretty cool, hopefully it will tie in good with Kings of War for raids etc. The only this we need for KoW is a Siege supplement as well. Takes Hat off


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardCarcearion 09-22-2017

Yay!

I hope this actually comes out soon as in actually soon, a opposed to "soon" as in "just 6 more months" like many companies seem to mean it.


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 09-22-2017

I think Mantic has some kind of "open day" in November, so that would be my guess...


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardAdmiral 09-22-2017

I dig the logo! Please keep us updated.


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-06-2017


Btw, I would assume this is Basilea vs Twilight Kin.

More Vanguard news and Kings of War-talk... https://manticblog.com/2017/10/06/ronnie...-vanguard/


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardAbyssalmatt 10-06-2017

This looks great, theyve said the intent is to tie it in with the rank and file game too I think.

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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-07-2017

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This looks great, theyve said the intent is to tie it in with the rank and file game too I think.


Jupp, thats how I understood it as well... Will be superb for campaigns and making your heroes more alive! Happy


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardGhrask Dragh 10-07-2017

Looks good, I like the sound of it providing a narrative into a large scale game so here feels like there is more to play for

I like the idea of Mantic (Walking Dead be one of my favorite games ever), Ronnie seems to be one of the coolest guys on the planet and Dungeon Saga of course!! But I have to say I've struggled with the miniatures, primarily being a painter it's a big part of the hobby or me. Now I have to say I have always been reserving judgment as I've never seen them in real life but certainly looking at the pics online I struggle to get excited about them

Maybe this will be a way in for me,  here's hoping...


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardAbyssalmatt 10-07-2017

I like most of their abyssal dwarf models. The decimators are a terrible kit though :/. Their gargoyles tend to have alot of mold lines also, but they're easy enough to trim up. The greater abyssal halfbreed is a frustrating kit too, but it can look great if youve got a little green stuff talent Happy

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RE: Kings of War - VanguardCarcearion 10-07-2017

Can't wait to get a release date on Vanguard or some solid information on exactly what kind of skirmish game it will be.


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-08-2017

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Looks good, I like the sound of it providing a narrative into a large scale game so here feels like there is more to play for

I like the idea of Mantic (Walking Dead be one of my favorite games ever), Ronnie seems to be one of the coolest guys on the planet and Dungeon Saga of course!! But I have to say I've struggled with the miniatures, primarily being a painter it's a big part of the hobby or me. Now I have to say I have always been reserving judgment as I've never seen them in real life but certainly looking at the pics online I struggle to get excited about them

Maybe this will be a way in for me,  here's hoping...


How about playing Kings of War/Vanguard with Abyssal Dwarves in 15mm, eh? Tongue


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardCarcearion 10-08-2017

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How about playing Kings of War/Vanguard with Abyssal Dwarves in 15mm, eh? Tongue



Oh My Hashut! Skirmish Wargaming at 15mm scale??? It would be so cheap to play that it just blew my mind Shock


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-09-2017

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tjub Wrote:
How about playing Kings of War/Vanguard with Abyssal Dwarves in 15mm, eh? Tongue



Oh My Hashut! Skirmish Wargaming at 15mm scale??? It would be so cheap to play that it just blew my mind Shock


You'll need a reason not to... Takes Hat off


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-10-2017

Mantic had a QnA about Vanguard on their Facebook group yesterday, have a look for those who are interested.

But some stuff that came up was: D8s, square bases, alternative activation with option to activate a group of models or individuals, well tied in to your KoW games, campaign system, around 1-1,5h a game. First out are Dwarvs, Abyssals, Goblins and Undead. Played on a 3x3 area.


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardCarcearion 10-10-2017

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Mantic had a QnA about Vanguard on their Facebook group yesterday, have a look for those who are interested.

But some stuff that came up was: D8s, square bases, alternative activation with option to activate a group of models or individuals, well tied in to your KoW games, campaign system, around 1-1,5h a game. First out are Dwarvs, Abyssals, Goblins and Undead. Played on a 3x3 area.


Can we get a link? My Facebook foo is very weak and I am not having any luck finding the Q&A on their homepage.


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-11-2017

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Can we get a link? My Facebook foo is very weak and I am not having any luck finding the Q&A on their homepage.


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardCarcearion 10-11-2017

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Carcearion Wrote:
Can we get a link? My Facebook foo is very weak and I am not having any luck finding the Q&A on their homepage.


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardGhrask Dragh 10-11-2017

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How about playing Kings of War/Vanguard with Abyssal Dwarves in 15mm, eh? Tongue


15mm Abyssal Dwarves you say? Oh if only someone had sculpted some I'd have to give them all my money immediately... hey wait a minute! Tongue Wink


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RE: Kings of War - Vanguardtjub 10-16-2017

More Vanguard news! Big Grin

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Kings of War: Vanguard will be launching on Kickstater soon. Throughout this week, we’ll be exploring the game in more detail and giving you a taste of the rules. In today’s blog, we’re looking at the background behind the game.



Mantica is a world ravaged by war, a constant fight for land and resources, or prestige and power. The borders of countries wax and wane like the phases of the moon. The sound of mighty armies marching to war echoes throughout the land.

But wars can be won before the first arrows have been fired, or sword has smashed against sword. Small warbands of hardened warriors clash in desperate struggles to gain the tactical advantage before the battle lines are drawn. These are the bloody skirmishes before the war, where warriors become legends.

That’s the ‘fluffy’ introduction to Vanguard, however, it took us a while to come up with that concept! A Kings of War skirmish game is something that people have been asking for and talking about for a while. The problem was, we didn’t just want to set it in an abandoned city (or similar), as that’s something that’s been covered in numerous other games.

Instead we wanted something that would compliment our existing Kings of War range and also provide a starting point for those looking to start their own Kings of War army. So during a long drive to Belgium last year for Crisis, we began discussing an idea centred round the scouting parties sent out ahead of the main force.

We particularly liked this idea as they’re likely to be some of the most skilled warriors, along with a few supporting troops, rather than the more typical rank and flank. As a result, the warband would contain a grizzled sergeant or veteran captain, alongside specialists like magic users and saboteurs. Their mission would be to scout ahead of the main force in order to caption tactical locations, disrupt supply lines or even take prisoners, etc.

The more we discussed the idea of the scouting parties, the more obvious it became that we could generate some fun scenarios based around this core concept, e.g. objectives might be beacons that need to be lit or you might need to assassinate a key enemy ahead of the main battle. We’re also still thinking of potential scenarios, so if you’ve got some ideas let us know in the comments below!

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It was also clear how these battles could feed into larger games of Kings of War too. So if you play a game of Vanguard in which the objective is to light beacons to show the way, in Kings of War you’ll be able to deploy your troops in a more advantageous position. Likewise, the scenarios can go the other way too, so you start with a big battle and then play a game of Vanguard in which you loot the corpses. Of course, Vanguard can be played independently of Kings of War and there will be a full campaign mode that we’ll detail later this week.

Another beauty of setting the game around the scouting parties is it gives a reason for all armies to get involved! It isn’t just a Basilean city that some forces would want to ransack. Instead, as mentioned earlier, Mantica is a little like medieval Europe with battles happening almost constantly. This means there’s always going to be a reason to send out those warbands for a bloody good scrap!

What’s more, we were conscious that a lot of people have multi-based their armies for KoW so the warbands idea is perfect because it focuses on individuals. These can then become the heroes/unit champions in your Kings of War armies too and, because the poses/sculpts will be extremely dynamic, they’ll add plenty of character to your army. There will be a small number of troops used in Vanguard, however these will be optional.

On that note, it’s worth mentioning that Vanguard will use square bases. Again, we wanted to make sure that Vanguard miniatures could easily crossover into Kings of War or even Dungeon Saga, so it made sense to have them on the same bases. It also makes it much easier for rules such as attacking miniatures from behind, as there’s a clear facing with a square base.

In the next blog, we’ll be taking a closer look at the Vanguard star cards and what they mean for your character.


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RE: Kings of War - VanguardCarcearion 10-16-2017

Thanks for keeping us updated here Tjub! Big Grin

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